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Hey there. I want the world on a shoe string... I am looking for a hedge to provide security from hunters and kids walking through my yard as if they own the place.. If there is a perfect recommendation - which I doubt...This is for the end of my landscaped yard that turns in to 2 acres of owned woodland. It is out of the way but quite a bit of shade cover. 

About 50 ft

Shade Tolerant

Immediate impact/fast growing 

As cheap as can be

As thorny as they come to deter folks

Not too bothered on appearance but would be nice to be evergreen to provide privacy through winter as well as summer

Zone 7 north New Jersey 

I was looking at forsythia based on size and cost ($20 per root) but appreciate these arent thorny (but can grow thick) and arent every green. Not sure if they are shade tolerant. 

I can plant double width if needed but again - cost for results is the key. Nobody will really see it so it doesnt have to be a picasso . The sooner I can reeducate the locals that my yard where my kids and dog hang out is not a public footpath - the better. 

pansyface

HELLO THERE,

MOST OF US HERE (ABOUT 98%) LIVE IN UK, OR IN EUROPE, WITH A SMATTERING OF OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THE GLOBE.

WE ARE FORTUNATE TO BE LARGELY FREE FROM HUNTERS (OTHER THAN THE ODD CAT OR KESTREL) AS GUNS ARE VERY STRICTLY CONTROLLED HERE, UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO BELONG TO THE NOBILITY OR ARE A FARMER.

CHEAP PRICKLY HEDGES?   NOTHING COMES CHEAP THAT IS INSTANT. I HAVE NEVER MET IT, AND WOULDN'T RECOGNISE IT IF I SAW IT, BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT POISON IVY IS SOMETHING TO BE AVOIDED IN YOUR COUNTRY.

ANY GOOD?

Do you get blackthorn in the US? You may not get many sloes growing in the shade but I think the bushes would grow well enough, if you can get them over there. They are viciously thorny and grow quickly

ETA - we get 'hunters' here, Pansy. By which I mean the local pheasant shoot who don't come into the garden but do shoot over the house . And the local stag hounds (x2). Most of the former are from London coming out for a weekend 'in the country' to kill birds (they miss a lot more than they hit)and the latter are generally all farmers but not using guns, just dogs.

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Berberis julianae is totally brutal and quick growing when established .

Agree with you Paul B3 - Berberis is evil!

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Why not plant Atropa belladonna and put a PYO board up in late summer (Pick Your Own) ?

pansyface

YOU PLAGUED BY STAGS DOWN YOUR WAY, RAISINGIRL? STAG HOUNDS.

WOULD STAG HOUNDS SORT OUT STAG NIGHTS? WE HAVE A FAIR FEW OF THOSE ROUND HERE AND I COULD DO WITH SOMETHING TO FIX THEM.

pansyface says:

WOULD STAG HOUNDS SORT OUT STAG NIGHTS? WE HAVE A FAIR FEW OF THOSE ROUND HERE AND I COULD DO WITH SOMETHING TO FIX THEM.

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 I've a suspicion they'd be more likely to join in than fix them 

Obelixx

We planted a hawthorn hedge (crataegus) in our last garden - planted maiden whips in autumn in well prepared soil - dug a trench and enriched it with compost and manure then watered well after planting - cut them to 9" and the whole thing grew 6 to 8' in its first year.   Trimmed it by half the following autumn to encourage it to thicken up and it grew the same amount the following year.

It is deciduous but gets quite thick if kept trimmed as a hedge so good for privacy tho it will also grow into large trees if you let it so you could space trees in the hedge.  It is prickly and thorny, provides blossom in May then berries in autumn with attractive foliage.   Very hardy too.

Mix it up with some pyracantha for extra thorns with evergreen foliage.  It won't grow to tree size but will help with making a good barrier.

josusa47

If you plant a deciduous hedge you could, once it's established, grow ivy through it which is evergreen.  By ivy I mean Hedera helix, not poison ivy.

Mike Allen

Forgive my ignorance but.  What exactly are you asking for.  Are you a victim of animal intruders, or humans.  A fast growing and all purpose subject, to deter humans.  Rosa Rugosa.   Berberis and buck thorn can be interplanted.  The latter being slower growing.  Does this help?

Guybrush

I'd suggest a few lengths of barbed wire with posts at regular intervals and then whatever climbers / shrubs you want. A few vigorous growing climbing roses like Rosa Banksiae would be happy in semi-shade growing up the wire. Eventually you won't even see the wire.

Ladybird4

Mike - he mentions 'hunters and kids' in his opening sentence so I suspect its them. I go with Paul and his Berberis suggestion. I have one in a mixed hedge and it terrifies the life out of me come hedge trimming time.

Guns are also very strictly controlled for farmers Pansyface but I wouldn't know about the nobility   I second - or is it third - the berberis suggestion. I have one that attacks me every time I mow anywhere near it.

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Lyn

The police recommended  Berberis around our oil tank to deter oil theifs but I would think as yours only 50' you could but a roll of sheep fencing, don't know what you call it where you live but it's strong with 4" square mesh. 

Berberis grows quite quickly but nothing is instant, and anything will need a help to start with, even Leylandii which is fast growing.

the fastest hedging we've ever had is Laurel, needs less attention than anything else but a bit boring to look at. 

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